Argentina's Debt Restructuration, Round Two
argentina | by Marcelo | 15 Jan, 2004 at 11:58 PM | comments (57) | trackback (0)
It's the world's biggest game of chicken. Eighty-eight billion In a previous post I sketched a rough model of what variables could determine the outcome of this issue. Consistency being the hobgoblin of little minds, I'll now put forward a different one. Besides, what's the fun on never changing your opinions? Argentina's Chicken Game Model The story: Argentina owes U$D 88 bn. to private creditors The three critical variables, I think, are:
Depending on these variables, the possible outcomes are two:
A somewhat simplistic analysis of course, but having a little mind, I'd rather deal with little models. Now, let's take a look at what these variables look like at the moment (keep in mind that these are variables; they are not only uncertain, but probably change over time).
In my "condensed notation", wob::: ArgDebt2.MaxArg:::25 ArgDebt2.MinCred:::65 Given the model, this suggests that the Argentinegovernment Of course, there's probably something I haven't factored in this, something obvious to you that I have either forgotten or never heard about. Post a comment. Criticize the model. Put forward data. Use the proverbial back of the envelope. Let's have fun doing analysis... and (By the way, I want to thank Edward, Felix and other people for their spirited give-and-take in the comments of past posts about Argentina's possible growth paths. Make sure you read them; in a sense, these posts are but pointers, and a lot of the intellectual The problem with this is that JudSet is either 100 (actually, significantly more than 100, since compound interest will be included) or 0, depending on how you look at things. If a creditor gets a court judgment, he will get that judgment at par, plus interest -- say 130 or so, give or take. That's the easy bit. The difficult bit is collecting on it: a US judge can't simply magic the money out of Argentina's foreign reserves. That's the thing about sovereign nations: they're sovereign... Posted by Felix | January 16, 2004 01:00 AM*Slaps forehead*. I knew that, I just forgot to include it. My impression is that collecting $88 bn + interest damages would be so difficult that bond holder would rather settle even with a favorable judicial outcome, and that facing such a troublesome situation [in actuality or as an unavoidable outcome] the Argentine government would settle at some point near 65 cts with relative political grace. So JudSet is effectively 65 cts, because that would satisfy bond holders and that's better for the Argentine government that a full embargo on comercial assets. Given the situation, settling would seem the rational thing to do. OTOH, I might be wrong in any of these assumptions. What do you (both Felix as everybody else) think? What would actually happen if there were a negative decision about Argentina, and would it be bad enough that the government'd rather negotiate at, say 50 cts per dollar? Posted by Marcelo | January 16, 2004 01:21 AMArgentina is going to lose the court cases. Argentina knows that it is going to lose the court cases. Argentina is negotiating on the assumption that it is going to lose the court cases. The fact that it has lost a court case in the US is not going to make it up its offer from 25 to 65. What's more, someone who has a court judgment for 130 might not accept a deal for 65: a court judgment is a more powerful debt instrument than a bond. Posted by Felix | January 16, 2004 11:48 AMTo head off what could be a possible response to Felix's first post: Not only can a US court not force the Argentine govt. to cough up money out of foreign reserves held in Argentina, the US court cannot force the Argentine govt. to cough up money out of reserves held overseas (at say the Fed. NY). Those reserves are not by the Arg. govt, but by the BCRA (central bank). As seperate entities, the BCRA cannot be held responsible for debts incurred by the Arg. govt. (And as Arg. is nominally sovereign over it's embassies, we can't confiscate the chancery in DC or UN mission in NY, either) (these questions have been asked during previous debt negotiations, and I thought we'd skip over them this time 'round...) I've seen mention of Dart doing something similar in the 90s in Brazil, and settling in '96. But I don't know what the figure settled for was (either as a lump or as cnets on the dollar). Any insight? Posted by mike d | January 16, 2004 12:02 PMMy impression is that, as Felix says, Nielsen's team _knows_ that it's going to lose the case. But, as Mike points out, you can't just send a couple of guys over to collect your USD 88 bn + interests from a sovereign country, specially one without (I think) many assets out of its borders. What I'm trying to understand is this: if effectively JudSet >= 130 (heck, if it's anywhere above 65), then Argentina should rationally settle *now* - should have settled long ago. As the negotiation team is, inside of certain politically motivated bounds, rational, yet Argentina isn't settling, I'm guessing that JudSet would, in practice, be lower, so even when they win the case (given how little assets the Argentine government has abroad) it'd still make sense for the creditors to settle... or at least this is what Argentina is counting on. Some alternatives (perhaps not all of them probable, but I don't know enough to disprove them): * Argentina's plan, when and if it loses the case, is to divert assets, pay as little as possible (eg, do what particulars do when facing debt collection; putting the car under an spouse's name, etc), reap political advantages at home and abroad and just generally weather it as much as possible until it all blows away. (Not something I'd recommend, but perhaps a possibility in some politician's mind.) * There is another, deeper layer of negotiations going on (that is, MaxArg isn't 25, and perhaps MinCred isn't 65 after all), and this court case provides both pressure for creditors against Argentina and political cover at home for President Kirchner. * Kirchner is actually hoping to win the case. What do you people think? In particular, what do you think the Argentine team is thinking? I believe the factual accounts so far in these comments are generally accurate (with all exceptions being mine), but what I'd like to make explicit is a picture of the strategy that both sides (or are there more?) are playing out. Posted by Marcelo | January 16, 2004 01:06 PMwith the exception of the last one, none of these options are mutually exclusive, and i would imagine that to some extent or another, they are all the case. if Kirchner seriously thinks the last one, then i think Argentina's in trouble. I don't think he thinks (this can get very "meta" very quick) that, though... Posted by mike d | January 16, 2004 02:24 PMHi, I don't know how much you guys know about all this, but maybe you can comment on my perception of the "model". First of all I do not think that judical pressure is a matter of concern directly. As you mentioned, even if a court would convict them to pay 1,30 on each dollar of debt, I hardly see why they should repay then. I don't think that a court judgement is more powerful then a bond. The reason why I think that renegotiations matter is that Argentina is suffering from the current state of being "in default". I can't say precisely how, but I suppose that international (and maybe even domestic) financial relations/transactions of the public and private sector are seriously hampered. So I'd introduce a variable "CostDef" for the damage done to the Argentine economy due to being in sovereign default. The other element I would add is that I think that the prospect for the Argentine economy is better, the more fiscal flexibility the administration has. For the creditors this means: every cent squeezed out of Argentina now will reduce future payment possibilities (e.g. more taxes have to be collected or political instability arises). I see to possible results for restructuring: (1) - depending on CostDef you can calculate a price that Argentina is willing to pay to end the current situation, i.e. a MaxArg. In a static setting I don`t see why they would ever agree to pay more. (2) - the parties find a way of sharing the surplus to the Argentine economy of not having to pay. For example only a small fraction is paid today, but new bonds running 5 or 10 years are given to the existing bondholders. The (2) approach requires a certain trust from the creditor side which may render such an agreement unrealistic in the current situation. The (1) approach is more likely to describe the current situation: Of course there is also a third party, namely the IMF or any other official organization, playing in this game. For example the IMF could make a (1)-agreement a (2)-agreement just by offering Argentina a loan large enough to repay the creditors. Something like 0.6*$88bn is probably not doable for the IMF for various reasons, but in anycase official money can enlargen the set of potential results and thereby ease agreement. I highly appreciate your comments! ossip, hi. You raise interesting points. Yes, Argentina is probably suffering for being in default, and there is a tradeoff for creditors between getting money now and getting more money later. Indeed, those creditors with long-term outlooks [i.e., corporate or professional investors] are content to mostly wait and let interests accumulate *as long as they are going to get them later*. 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